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  • Liam
    Liam
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    MP Patrick Mercer is i believe introducing a Bill to give people more power to defend their property in the face of burglary.
    The British Gov. however feel the law as it stands is “sound” and “reasonable force” is appropriate,
    surely,we should give the public a fighting chance and stop stacking the cards in the burglars favour?
    If i were a gun owner,legally,i personally would not hesitate to use one and as a victim of a burglary myself i am furious that the powers that be seem to feel that a householder has adequate rights…we dont and we need to.

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    I think that the problem with the current law is that there is no clear definition of what “reasonable force” actually is. I think the law should clearly define what “reasonable force” actually is. Is it acceptable to kill someone; is it acceptable to paralyse some one?

    I do think, however, that if an intruder injures themselves whilst on a person?s property uninvited; they should NOT, I repeat NOT have the right to sue the property owner for damages. This just makes a mockery of the whole system.

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    Backload
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    I do think, however, that if an intruder injures themselves whilst on a person?s property uninvited; they should NOT, I repeat NOT have the right to sue the property owner for damages. This just makes a mockery of the whole system.

    I agree whole heartedly. A person who enters someones property on whatever grounds, malice or otherwise should do so at their own risk.

    There is a duty of care on the part of trespasser more than the owner. The owner should not need to secure their property.

    There was a case of a guy sitting protesting on a railway track in California who lost both his legs when the engine ran over him while he was protesting – this is scandalous and it will happen on these Islands yet.

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    Liam
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    A trespasser gives up all rights…..a homeowner should be able to defend himself and family

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    Mr Byrne
    Mr Byrne
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    A trespasser gives up all rights…..a homeowner should be able to defend himself and family

    I’ll drink to that, or should I say I’ll shoot to that? I mean, a burgler breaks into your house at night, he’s usually not alone. I think you should have the right to set your dog on them and shoot them if necessary. I mean say if you catch them. They’re going to be armed with a hurley stick, maybe a knife, or if worst came to the worst – a gun. They’re not going to run away, they’re going to approach you. If you don’t succeed in overpowering them, then you’re going to be in hospital, if your lucky, and imagine what they might be intersted in getting up to with your wife or girl friend? Sorry to sound discusting, but it could happen.

    I think we should have the right to defend ourselves. But as it stands now, if someone broke into your house what do you do? Call the police, then aproach them with your rifle (or shot-gun- thats a better one to use) – You say, leave the house. They say, make us. – They start to approach you or ignore you, — you have to shoot them, no other solution.

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    Liam
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    Well said Mr. Byrne,
    its not quite “shoot first ask questions later” but you have to think fast….
    restraining a burglar is preferable to being restrained by one,or as you pointed out a wife/girlfriend who present another type of temptation to some of these brainless, drugged-up slimeballs.

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    AnjaliWOW
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    If I ever come across anyone who is after breaking into my house he’d never be seen or heard of again and no law would be called… :angry:

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    Mr Byrne
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    Seen as I’m obviously to the only person here who’s a member of a riffle club, I think I can go the full way – say if someone breaks into your elderly neighbours house, she calls you – you go in, you should be able to shoot the scum-bags in her house too.

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    Dotdotuk
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    REASONABLE FORCE is the phrase here.

    No one has the right to kill burgulars like that scumbag in Norfolk who shot someone in the back.

    The problem is that if burgulars know that houseowners can efectively have-a-go and not worry about the consequences then they will go out on their theiving tooled-up. Thereby making the world a lot less safe for all of us.

    A vicious circle I know but but instinctively throwing a punch or a frying pan to incapacitate or frighten off the thief is AND SHOULD be all that householders are entiltled to do.

    Self defence not slaughter.

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    AnjaliWOW
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    dotdotuk+Jan 16 2005, 06:19 PM–>(dotdotuk @ Jan 16 2005, 06:19 PM)
    REASONABLE FORCE is the phrase here.

    No one has the right to kill burgulars
    The problem is that if burgulars know that houseowners can efectively have-a-go and not worry about the consequences then they will go out on their theiving tooled-up. Thereby making the world a lot less safe for all of us.

    Self defence not slaughter.

    If person unlawfully enters my house with intent to steal my possesions and is armed in case they come across anyone in the house then they are ‘SCUM’ They deserve and will get bullet in the head, hatchet in the head or pounded to death with baseball bat…… possibly all 3.
    Point been that anyone entering my house unlawfully has lost any respect that I would normally have for a fellow human being and therefore would get no mercy.

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    Dotdotuk
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    [QUOTE=AnjaliWOW,Jan 16 2005, 10:38 PM]

    If person unlawfully enters my house with intent to steal my possesions and is armed in case they come across anyone in the house then they are ‘SCUM’ They deserve and will get bullet in the head, hatchet in the head or pounded to death with baseball bat…… possibly all 3.
    Point been that anyone entering my house unlawfully has lost any respect that I would normally have for a fellow human being and therefore would get no mercy.

    I’ll assume you are joking

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