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  • Eagleeye
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    I’m not sure it would make much difference now, other than some psychological comfort for the families of the victims of 9/11 and political kudos for Bush (or whoever is the US President) with his electorate. It’s not like he’s the only “black hat” out there, causing all the trouble, raising all the issues about foreign policy etc. Who knows for eg who exactly is behind all the suicide bombs in Iraq? There may be many ‘Bin Ladens’ and many groups who share a common vision of the west as an evil force that requires their martyrdom.

    So no, catching him would not make the world safer. I think this is a phase in our history – violent instability of this kind. I just hope that after the farce of Iraqi WMDs that no group linked to him or his followers/fellow travellers do get their hands on any.

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    Stevo
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    Whether Osama Bin Laden is caught or not, it won’t make any difference to World terrorism. There will always be extremists ready to die for their political cause.

    I’m sure that he will turn up eventually though, the US certainly are not going to give up in their hunt for him. (Rightly so after the events of Sept 11th 2001.) But I don’t think that the World will be any more safer once he is found.

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    ST34
    ST34
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    Without doubt there are many more “Bin Ladens” at large.

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    Edofis
    edofis
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    Highly damned unlikely he’ll ever be captured but if he was ever captured it would maybe de-stabalise the alqaida network for a while. It’s been said in here that there are always people willing to die for their cause or should we say: There are always those willing to be brainwashed to die for their cause. Afterall we haven’t seen Mr Numero Uno blow himself up yet for his cause have we.

    As for world peace, don’t hold your breath. As long as there’s mankind there will be war.

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    ST34
    ST34
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    That’s a very mis-informed summary edofis

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    MelbourneTV
    MelbourneTV
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    I hope he is caught. He must be brought to justice for the atrocities he has caused in the US, Africa, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere.

    I dont think the world will be safer, there are millions of fanatics out there. Atleast once a week there is a suicide bombing in the Middle East and they’re all to common in the Philipinnes and Iraq.

    Amrozi, who is soon to be executed for his part in the Bali Bombings on October 12 2002 which killed 202 people (88 Australians, and about 20 Britons???) this week said that there will be more attacks. His son is named Osama and has instructed his wife to bring him up like OBL.

    Their absolute wankers and I hate them.

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    Johnnie
    Johnnie
    Keymaster

    Gun-fights have broken out on the Afghan and Pakistan border.

    Al Qaeda’s Ayman Al-Zawahiri – Bin Laden’s second is said to be surrounded and maybe injured after 2 days of fighting.

    Ayman Al-Zawahiri is said to have had a key role in the 9/11 attacks.

    Sky’s Richard Bestic should be in Pakistan, I wonder if we will see any pictures of this battle. Altho i would imagine it is a very dangerous place at the moment.

    Many journalists have just walked out of Colin Powell’s news briefing.

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    MelbourneTV
    MelbourneTV
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    Why did they walk out of the press conference???

    I cant believe this story:

    Bin Laden No 2 came to recruit

    By Cameron Stewart

    March 20, 2004

    OSAMA bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, says he visited Australia in the 1990s on a false passport to help organise a global terror network, according to bin Laden’s biographer.

    The explosive claim is revealed in a TV interview by the ABC’s Andrew Denton with prominent Pakistani editor Hamid Mir, who was the first journalist to interview bin Laden after the terror attacks of September 11, 2001.

    Mir says that during this interview in Afghanistan in November 2001, al-Zawahiri – the world’s second-most wanted man – told him he had visited Australia.

    However, the federal Government yesterday played down al-Zawahiri’s claim, saying it had no record that the terrorist leader had ever visited Australia, either under his own name or under any of his known aliases.

    The claim comes as Pakistani officials said yesterday they might have cornered al-Zawahiri in a remote area near the Afghan border after two days of intense fighting.

    Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf said that the ferocity of resistance encountered by Pakistani soldiers had fuelled the belief that the al-Qa’ida fighters they were battling must be shielding a “high-value target”.

    Pakistani forces set a deadline of 6pm (AEST) last night for al-Zawahiri and his supporters to surrender, but an Afghanistan-based Taliban spokesman claimed that both he and bin Laden were “100per cent safe”.

    This followed reports of a heavily guarded “foreigner” fleeing the scene of the siege in a bullet-proof LandCruiser.

    Al-Zawahiri, a 52-year-old bespectacled Egyptian surgeon, is believed to be the operational commander of al-Qa’ida and a key planner of the September 11 terror attacks in the US and the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed more than 200.

    Now Mir has disclosed that during a face-to-face interview in a remote hideaway in Afghanistan in 2001, al-Zawahiri told him he had visited Australia once and New Zealand twice.

    In an interview to be aired on the ABC’s Enough Rope on Monday, Mir says: “He (al-Zawahiri) told me that in the early 1990s he had travelled to New Zealand; he was there to meet some of his people, and he came to Australia and then from Australia he went to Indonesia; from Indonesia he went to Philippines; from Philippines he went to Switzerland … he was on a mission to organise his network all over the world.”

    In May last year, al-Zawahiri ordered Muslims to attack Australians and Australian interests, exorting them to “turn the earth under their feet into fire”.

    Speaking from the Pakistani capital of Islamabad yesterday, Mir told The Weekend Australian that al-Zawahiri claimed to have visited Darwin sometime between 1992 and 1996.

    “At that time he was moving around the world as a businessman travelling on false passports, often using Christian names,” Mir said.

    “He told me he stopped for a while in Darwin – he was definitely organising his network, looking for help and collecting funds.”

    Mir said that he had written about al-Zawahiri’s claims, including his alleged Australian visit, in his forthcoming biography of Osama bin Laden.

    Until he became a major terror suspect, al-Zawahiri travelled frequently around the world using false passports and at least 10 known aliases.

    If al-Zawahiri did visit Australia, as he claims, he would be the most senior terrorist leader to have come here.

    By the early 1990s, ASIO was already monitoring several local terror suspects, including Guantanamo Bay inmate Mamdouh Habib, who was believed to have been in telephone contact with terrorists who attempted to destroy the World Trade Centre in 1993.

    In late 1994, the suspected head of al-Qa’ida in Europe, Abu Qutada, now imprisoned, conducted a speaking tour of Sydney and Melbourne.

    And Abu Bakar Bashir, the spiritual leader of Jemaah Islamiah, the group responsible for the Bali bombings, also visited Australia 11 times during the 1980s and 90s.

    Mir said Australia had become a target of al-Qa’ida because of its role as a staunch ally of the US in the war against terror.

    “Al-Qa’ida is not targeting only America – it is also trying to target all countries, including Australia and Pakistan, who are partners of the US in war against terrorism.”

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo…255E601,00.html

    I cant believe he came here and no one noticed.

    #13868 Reply
    Johnnie
    Johnnie
    Keymaster

    A chilling offer attributed to Osama bin Laden has said he will give gold to anyone who kills the heads of foreign agencies in Iraq.

    The statement said the al Qaeda boss had put a bounty on the heads of Paul Bremer, the top US civilian in Iraq, and United Nations chief Kofi Annan.

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    ST34
    ST34
    Member

    It just occured to me that if anyone put a bounty on the head of Paul Bremer it would quickly melt in the heat of Baghdad.

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    Steven
    Steven
    Member

    It just occured to me that if anyone put a bounty on the head of Paul Bremer it would quickly melt in the heat of Baghdad.

    Oh deary deary me. Would that be a milk or dark chocolate bounty though?

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