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    phaedrusuk
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    #25681 Reply

    phaedrusuk
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    Just want to get this off my chest and start a debate.

    The 00:30-01:00 slot is when Sky News show the CBS World News.

    I think the US TV news anchors (CBS News on Sky – and ABC news on BBC News 24) – and the UST news formats themselves – are 10-20 years BEHIND the UK.

    The UK: Sky News, BBC News24, Five news seated style, or even the appalling ITN News Channel, is way ahead in their quality, informal style and natural presentation.

    We are often told that the US is ahead in their TV coverage / trends – but my impression of their news anchors is old, stuffy, wooden and stilted presentation style from “old men” – and this seems out-dated.

    I find the US “stuffed-shirt” TV news anchor in the studio – relaying to “punchy OB OB reporters for “special reports”, and typically older men, with that “impeccable hair/windsor knot tie/suit” – presenting themselves as “trusted older friend/father reporter/presenter” – the whole style of “this is the US news tonight from CBS” presentation is stilted.

    I find myself distracted by the awful presentation style – not that there is much content to the news pieces either – which often concentrate on home affairs – or Iraq gulf war coverage or the knock-on effects – e.g. tributes to the fallen soldiers regular item.

    The news formats themselves – typically, magazine-based “news informational items”, presented by more “overly-chirpy” bad presenters, always referring “methodically” to the name of the presenter in the studio at the beginning and end of their, usually fact-free, news “items”.

    P.S. This is not US-baching – just think that the way they try and portray the news anchor and their news as “authoritative” – yet is actually way below the quality, content and presnetation standards of the UK.

    “Over to you Jim – Thanks Bob”. Or:

    “Juliet Lewis reporting from the Whitehouse. – Back to you Peter – Thanks Julia”.

    Anybody agree/disagree ?

    Cheers, Phae.

    #25682 Reply

    phaedrusuk
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    67 views and not one reply! OK, how about I simplify my post:

    What do people think of the style of TV news coverage of CBS News ?

    Does anybody find the CBS Evening News (and Abc World News Tonight over on BBC News 24) to be stuffy, out-dated and poor coverage – and do you, like me, find the “stuffed-shirt, not a hair out-of-place, patronising News Acnhorman in the studio, to be particularly tiresome !?

    Nope. Just me then ? OK, I’ll get my coat…

    Cheers, P.

    #25683 Reply

    MelbourneTV
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    It is different, who cares.
    You could say the same things for BBC presentation, or even Sky News.
    It’s a different market, different tastes and ways of doing things.

    #25684 Reply

    HBox
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    I would have to agree with Phae, American news (from what I have seen of it anyway) is unwatchable, for me anyway.

    But then, Melbourne makes the point that it is aimed at a different audience.
    And although the US tends to lead the way with ‘world class’ sitcoms like Friends, Fraiser, Ally McBeale and Desperate Housewives to name a few, they tend to be behind on more contemporary or controversial programming.

    Note that a lot of UK grown programmes have been exported to the US ad other countries in recent years. To name a few:
    Who Wants to be a Millionaire, The Weekest Link, Pop Idol, Supernanny, Big Brother, Queer as Folk, The Office…

    From my perspective, their news content does seem dated (except maybe Fox News, but lets not mention that). But that is from a UK perspective.

    In my opinion, America could do with a US version of Sky News to broaden their outlook into international news. I know they would have access to BBC World, but I think Sky News is more digestable by Americans.

    #25685 Reply

    phaedrusuk
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    Thanks for the replies Melbourne & HBox!

    I haven’t seen Fox news – but I understand it’s somewhere to the right of Ghengis Khan on political matters… more like “The Sun” UK tabloid in right-wing views, I understand. I will go watch a foxtv internet clip now.

    Agree with HBox re. the quality of (some of) their other TV. e.g. Have you seen the Apprentice – USA original version – a Mark Burnett production – one of the best-made TV shows I’ve seen in terms of the way the program is made/put together: just in terms of style, editing, structure – better than the UK BBC Apprentice spin-off in terms of TV quality – and that was good, I thought.

    But as for CBS Evening News, ABC World News Tonight – its not just the “stuffed-anchorman”, it’s also the magazine format stories and the nature of the outside broadcast reports, and the way they throw to each other – it all seems very conservative and unchanged since the 1970’s!

    Broadcast News, anyone ?

    Cheers, Phae.

    #25686 Reply

    phaedrusuk
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    P.S. Forgot to mention that I think that CBS/ABc news that I watch on Sky/bbS News24 at 00:30 – is very much like “Tonight with Trevor MacDonald” in the magazine format and style of anchor presentation.

    Except “Tonight” actually has reasonable in-depth coverage of the items – not some flossy parochial coverage of a topic – well it used to, sometimes, when they put their mind to it! Before they split tonight into bitesize mini-pieces.

    “Tonight”, of course, was supposed to be the UK version of theUS 60-minutes documentary format from the US – one of their quality, award-winning programmes – so it’s not all bad over there, as we were saying.

    Final example: CBS news other night had an article on “how laughing is good treatment for your health, say medics” – this is something I’ve seen covered many times in the past – yet they treate dist with wide-eyed “never heard this before” OB special reporter-style – to me, it just seemed to be a tired old story re-hash,using a bit of new medical news as the excuse!

    Oh well, if I ever go Live in the States, I suppose it will have to BBC America ?!

    Cheers, P.

    #25687 Reply

    HBox
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    Well, hopefully it is only a matter of time before Sky News is broadcast in the States. After all, we have Fox News over here (presumably) for US ex-pats, so why can’t American tv cater for UK ex-pats who might want decent news.

    #25688 Reply

    DDP
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    Except “Tonight” actually has reasonable in-depth coverage of the items – not some flossy parochial coverage of a topic – well it used to, sometimes, when they put their mind to it! Before they split tonight into bitesize mini-pieces.

    You are comparing a thirty minute show dedicated to a single subject, to an early evening news broadcast which is cut down in the first place. You really want to to see a thirty minute piece on medical insurance in Nebraska or the fact the FDA bans certain drugs that have been legal in Canada for years? Its called time constraints. They have them here. CBS, ABC and NBC are not 24 hour news channels. You can’t compare them. you have completely different channels completely. As far as the anchors and ‘magazine style’, try watching the evening news on network television here with the single anchors. You ever hear of Trevor McDonald or Huw Edwards? Fiona Bruce? any of them :rolleyes:

    Final example:  CBS news other night had an article on “how laughing is good treatment for your health, say medics” – this is something I’ve seen covered many times in the past – yet they treate dist with wide-eyed “never heard this before” OB special reporter-style – to me, it just seemed to be a tired old story re-hash,using a bit of new medical news as the excuse!

    How often do you actually watch the news in this country? We have some stupid report such as that repeated each month. Its not unique to the US, and its not exclusive to news shows. Most of the time these things pop up as a result of crap stories in newspapers as a result of the paper looking for copy. :rolleyes:

    Well, hopefully it is only a matter of time before Sky News is broadcast in the States. After all, we have Fox News over here (presumably) for US ex-pats, so why can’t American tv cater for UK ex-pats who might want decent news.

    Because of course Fox News is the only 24 hour news source? There are at least three different variations of CNN, plus CSPAN, CNBC…..etc etc. :blink:

    #25689 Reply

    HBox
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    CNN’s schedule is too cluttered and vague, CNBC is more of a business channel and I havn’t seen CSPAN so cannot comment on that. All I know is that if I lived in the US, it would be nice to news that I would find watchable. This is unlikely to happen in the near future though.

    #25690 Reply

    DDP
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    But thats it exactly. You are basing your opinion on something you haven’t seen. I never have any problems whenever in back in the CONUS. You say CNN is cluttered yet it is an international variation shown in Europe which takes programming from different regions. Likewise CNBC has more news on in the US.

    Fox News really isn’t a typical news channels as the majority of the programming is opinion based (not always of bias as some always state) or magazine style, reporting on the issues of that particular day. The only news show as such is really the Fox Report.

    As far as finding news that is watchable, I rarely stick with SKY. Why stick with one when idea is to find as much information on a subject as possible? I spent just as much time watching the BBC and ITVN as SKYN on Thursday. I spent more time online searching the news than those combined. I even watched bits of Al Jazeera for a change of perspective. Not sure if there actually was one as my Arabic is less than proficient

    SKYN is actually starting to bug the crap ‘outa me anyway. I’m sick of been patronised by continually stating the obvious. Kay Burley constantly wittered on during the IOC presentation Wednesday as if she was obsessed with the sound of her own voice, and Martin Stanford told me it was 1500hrs and I was watching a live press conference earlier. Gee, I would never have known despite watching it for 30 minutes and i’m obviously far too dumb to notice the banner, ticker and the clock on screen. :rolleyes:

    #25691 Reply

    HBox
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    Fair enough I havn’t seen the US versions of CNN or CNBC, but I am not exclusive to watching Sky either, on thursday, I watched CNN and even Fox, even Al Jazeera, though I couldn’t understand it it.

    With regards to the fact that Martin Stanford pointed out the time and what you were watching, you have to remember that not everyone watches the channel from dawn until dusk, and seeing as it was the top of the hour and new viewers may just be tuning in, I would imagine them to want to ‘refresh’ what is going on. Better than having no vocal imput at all.

    #25692 Reply

    DDP
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    I don’t watch from dawn till dusk either! I turned over as he started yabbering, and others didn’t interrupt. It was doubly annoying as it was just as a good question was starting to be replied to. There was no reason to talk until the press conference was over. :angry:

    #25693 Reply

    phaedrusuk
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    Well, that’s raised a few issues.

    Yes, I have watched the single-presenters on BBC/ITV – their style, and the item content seems to be fresh, the stiries are NEW, relevant and NOT relying on aP/press copy to set the lead – and no, I do not think I have seen a re-hashed subject each month.

    My point about the CBS “laughter makes you better” – not just the story – which is tired – and wheree the TV seem to have taken their lead from the PRess/wire story that would have released this- but it’s the content-free element and the style of Outside Broadcast or special report – less fact , more “folksy reportage”.

    The UK Tonight with Trevor MacDonal show has changed considerably on ITV – it was much more like “60 minutes” originally – as it was based on that – but recently they’ve turned it onto magazine format- unless it’s a “special report” episode. And Tongiht has been severely criticised from Day 1 – just like I am cirticising the similar, but far worse CBS/Abc news presentations.

    I will agree that CBC/Abc programmes to which I refer are more like BBC1 or ITV1 “nightly news programmes” – but it is the stultifying, parochial, formulaic and low-boredom-threshold style that just makes me think it is “factoids” I’m being presented – not news!

    And no, I’m not a “sky only” or “all-day” viewer – only tend to watch news in the evening with my Freeview box which gives me BBCN24, Sky and ITN – plus the usual BBC1/ITV usual news programmes, etc.

    Channel 4 news anyone? Newsnight ?

    MSNBC – Finally – when I used to be able to stream it from their unofficial website channels – MSNBC.com – I used to enjoy their news/programmes – preferred them to CNN.

    But agree with DDP re. the Europe/US/etc. editions of CNN – cable and web -were more widely suited to their audiences.

    Cheers, P.

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