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    daved2424
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    daved2424
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    Sky News is planning a revamp that will move the channel away from rolling news and introduce more ‘appointment to view’ programmes into its schedule.

    The move will be a departure for the channel that has built its reputation by being first with breaking news and providing a constant stream of rolling news information.

    But Sky News chief Nick Pollard, speaking this week at a Broadcasting Press Guild lunch, said the perception of the channel as simply being the best for “breaking news” could be “a double-edged sword” and it was now looking at ways of evolving its news service with more scheduled programme formats.

    He said these would help form the “building blocks” of the schedule and be “built around specific presenters”, although it was too early to discuss who would host the shows. He said new presenters could be recruited to front some of the new programmes.

    Sky News already has fixed points in its schedule including Sunrise in the morning and Live at Five but wants more scheduled programmes to pull in viewers and keep them for longer.

    But he insisted Sky News would always put covering big breaking news first and break into fixed schedules whenever necessary.

    The move is in response to increased competition from BBC News 24 and to a lesser degree the ITV News Channel, which has had success in developing scheduled shows around presenters such as Alastair Stewart and Angela Rippon. Pollard said the changes would be introduced later this year, probably around the time Sky News moves into new hi-tech studio facilities being developed at Sky’s Osterley HQ.

    Source:broadcastnow.co.uk

    #23683 Reply

    eagleeye
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    World news please. Thank you Mr Pollard.

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    HBox
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    Interesting…Just as I suspected.

    #23685 Reply

    calciofan
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    Great idea!

    :: A ‘newsnight’ type programme fronted by Jeremy Thompson would be great in the evenings – looking back and analysing the top news stories.

    :: I would also like some sort of a debate show like ‘question time’ fronted by maybe Adam Boulton.

    :: The should also have a 15-30 minute bussiness news round-up in the evenings (Michael Wilson/Heather Scott).

    :: At the moment I think ‘Sportsline’ is fine for me. But they should have two main shows – one in the morning previewing the sport ahead and one in the evening like they have at the moment reviewing the day’s sport.

    :: I think they need to also use their foreign correspondents more. For example, they should have a fixed 30 miniute show each day with news from each of the six continents. At the moment there are very little news from Asia, South America and Oceania.

    They may have a rotating timetable – for example, News from the US and North America (Ian Woods/Andrew Wilson) on Monday, news from the Middle East/Asia on Tuesday (Emma Hurd/Richard Bestic/Dominic Waghorn), Africa on Wednesday (David Chater), Oceania on Thursday and South America on Friday (?).

    They could also round up the European news on Saturday (Laurence Lee/Colin Brazier) and a round-up of the biggest world stories on Sunday night (Tim Marshall).

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    edofis
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    Fantastic!
    This is a great move and something we were talking about on these forums some considerable time ago.
    Like Eagleeye i’d like to see more programmes focusing on world news with skys foreign correspondants.
    I also like the calciofans idea of a newsnight type progamme with JT. Just keep littlejohn wellaway from our screens please.

    #23687 Reply

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    This is good news. The problem with rolling news is that after an hour, you get the same thing all over again. The Fox News style schedule works well, and could work well for Sky News too.

    I think a UK version of Fox News Watch would be great, with pundits commenting on the coverage received of major news stories. Unlike the BBC equivalent, it would be less about mainland European opinions on the UK.

    I think a UK version of Hannity and Colmes would be risky (as not everyone is in to politics). But I think it leads to more interesting political discussion. It allows biases that counteract one another, and allows more loaded questions to be asked by the interviewers. Hannity and Colmes seems to be the basis for Channel 4’s Morgan and Platell programme, which seems to work well. Littlejohn & Toynbee anyone? Michael Portillo & Diane Abbott? Peter Hitchens & Austin Mitchell?

    Richard Littlejohn’s attempt to be Bill O’Reilly was pretty lame, and obviously risked damaging Sky News’s reputation for impartiality. But if they could get a less ‘tabloid’ right-wing host, and an equivalent left-wing host, and say cut their programmes to half an hour each, I think the opinion-driven format could work in the UK. At the very least LBC’s Nick Ferrari would be better than Littlejohn.

    As for Sky News in the daytime, I think a simulcast or clone of Channel 5’s The Right Stuff might be good. Similarly a news-discussion version of Kilroy (like Fox’s Daytime with Linda Vesta) would be an interesting innovation.

    And obviously there’s the opportunity to create a clone of Fox and Friends. I think that would be great, and it would also be perfect for the early-morning Channel 5 Simulcast.

    Truth is that Fox News is Talk Radio, on the TV, with some extra news coverage thrown in. If Sky News could find a happy medium between the two formats, I think it would outclass itself.

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    daved2424
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    What? Have you ever seen Hannity and Colmes? It is one of the most biased shows I have ever seen, only superseded by other FOX News shows. Hannity as an arrogant jerk who lies constantly, and Colmes rarely does anything to correct him. The idea of having little shows like FOX News is good, but that’s as far as any similarity should go. I know that a lot of news professionals in UK, and not only at Sky, hold FOX News in contempt for its rubbish output. Having said that, it’s very funny to watch, just a shame so many Americans believe it’s the truth. For more information read ‘Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them’ by Al Franken.

    As for simulcasts with five this is very unlikely and I don’t think either channel would benefit from it.

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    tippguy
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    i think sky should not name the shows after their presenter like littlejohn. that way if the presenter is rubbish they can easily change him/her without changing the shows name.

    #23690 Reply

    dirkyt
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    I am a bit wary of this set up. I hope that SKY reports on what is going on and is not overtaken with what SKY and SKY presenters THINK of news stories. The US schedules (especially FOX) are so biased – and I only pray SKY’s changes are for the better.

    I hope that Jeremy, Lisa, Anna, Adam and Juliette front new programmes.

    It may be a good way to get rid of excess presenters!

    I look forward to more news on this. Wonder if they’ll ditch the desk and get the presenters to be on their pins for hours??

    #23691 Reply

    daved2424
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    There will be a desk, but special.

    #23692 Reply

    dirkyt
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    Cheers mate..I can’t wait – sounds interesting. Will the revamp take place this autumn – or will it be next year?

    #23693 Reply

    HBox
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    Fox News is abysmal and should never be replicated or cloned on any UK news channel, or any other channel for that matter. In fact I wish Fox was removed from the Sky epg and replaced with NBC or ABC news.

    I think the changes on Sky News is for the better, and will impress mostly everyone, except those incapable of coping with change.

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    dirkyt
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    Well..you can put money on some folk not being happy. I hope that they give ITV News a run for their money with their ‘theatre of news’.

    I’m not the biggest fan of the presenters now that John Suchet (the legend) has left..but their studio is fab!!

    Wonder if there will be ‘CNN Headline News’ style news bulletins – between unique specialist programmes??

    There may be a programme like Panorama or Reporters were Jeremy Thompson, Michelle Clifford, Richard Bestic, Emma Hurd, Dominic Waghorn and Andrew Wilson will report in-depth??

    Juliette Foster may host a Financial Report show..she is the ONLY person who makes the FTSE seem fascinating!!

    Lisa Aziz and Anna Botting are good interviewers, and don’t take any crap!! If they want a Newsnight style show..get Anne MacKenzie from BBC Scotland in the fold, she makes Paxman look like a pussy cat!!

    There is a magnitude of possibilties…

    #23695 Reply

    daved2424
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    You like the ITV news set? I think it is one of the worst sets I have seen ever, ever, ever ever!

    #23696 Reply

    dirkyt
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    I do..compared to other UK sets..but that is my opinion.

    The main thing to judge is news content..that’s what I’ll be looking at when the revamp happens!!

    #23697 Reply

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    Sound like a nice development to me!
    If I could have my say jeremy and julie etchingham would front one or two of the new programmes…

    #23698 Reply

    edofis
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    I’ve never been able to get into this sets & graphics thingy, but hey! horse for courses. I’m more interested in how the news is delivered and if it’s delivered by a handsome/pretty face all the better. Just please don’t turn it into a comfy sofa magazine show style set.
    The one thing that itv have that sky does not, is, Angela Rippon. I think it’s about time sky done some serious negotiating.
    There is not one person i can think of, off the top of my head that would make the ftse sound interesting. The business report goes right over my head or is it, in one ear and out the other or both.

    daved2424
    The idea of having little shows like fox news is good,
    Yeah! To show you how it shouden’t be done.

    #23699 Reply

    NEWSBOY2
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    Angela Rippon, at 60 I don’t think she would be a good deal for Sky.

    #23700 Reply

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    Fox News is utter garbage, its far from fair or balanced, or interesting.

    Immitating this dull confrontational chat format will be a disaster for Sky News, if you listen to the output while looking in the opposite direction it sounds like a radio talk programme, which is exactly what it should be.

    Viewers will go elsewhere for their news, say goodbye to news channel of the year awards because there wont be one next year.

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    AJ
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    Patch+Mar 3 2005, 02:53 AM–>(Patch @ Mar 3 2005, 02:53 AM)
    Fox News is utter garbage, its far from fair or balanced, or interesting.

    Immitating this dull confrontational chat format will be a disaster for Sky News, if you listen to the output while looking in the opposite direction it sounds like a radio talk programme, which is exactly what it should be.

    Viewers will go elsewhere for their news, say goodbye to news channel of the year awards because there wont be one next year.

    oh behave yourself!

    Yes, Fox is nausiating – I agree with your point there, and I’m sure the people at Sky would too.

    For a start, Sky wouldn’t be able to be anything but impartial – there’s guidelines on Impartiality which can be found in Section 3 of the Ofcom Programme Code.

    Sky are only talking about going back to how they used to be pre-2001 – i.e. programmes on the half hour e.g. Your Call, Technofile, Book Review, with the addition of presenter led programming – eg Jeremy Thompson Tonight or whatever.

    I can’t see what you’re getting so het up about really. It’s a development that many of us have been wanting for a while.

    #23702 Reply

    dirkyt
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    Yeah – SKY must be aware of FOX’s lack of impartiality.

    As for who is going to be fronting any new programmes – we’ll have to wait and see. However, I very much doubt they’ll get Angela Rippon (or if I had a choice Anne MacKenzie) Quite frankly – they don’t need MORE presenters.

    The main point I would like to make is that there are presenters who should become the faces of SKY News and not just spare parts (Juliette, Lisa, Viv and Paula!!)

    While I can’t wait to see a revamped schedule – I’m not running to my toilet all the time – with the excitement!!

    #23703 Reply

    SimUK
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    Erm, but haven’t they tried this before…

    * Littlejohn – some people loved it, some hated it. The program ended (as Littlejohn left)

    * 3D – the show with the three women presenting their individual segments and then a general chat at the end. That seemed to die a death suddenly didn’t it? I also hardly ever watched it because I wanted breaking news.

    * Year in Review – an excellent set of programs (taped 2003’s, missed most of 2004’s as they were taken off air long before I was expecting due to the Tsunami news). But another example of where people have complained (on here and other forums) that they’d rather see news than a recorded program.

    I want to see Live stuff, and I’d prefer breaking news than some stale “recorded last week” interview. If Sky has some news that is breaking, they need to break to that. You’ve only got to look at the 30 minutes when they have CBS Evening News on, to see how if a breaking story comes in they usually have to grit their teeth and wait until the next hour to properly break it and don’t break in to the program.

    What it really needs is Sky News 2. Or Sky News Active rolled out to Freeview. Give people the choice of what they want to watch. Sky News surely wouldn’t be News Channel of the Year for the 4th year in a row if they were doing it wrong with all the Breaking News would they?

    #23704 Reply

    tippguy
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    i hope that these shows are live that way if a news story breaks as mr.purnell said they will be breaking into the programmes the presenter of the show will be able to say that they are going over to the newsroom rather than just cutting the programme short.

    #23705 Reply

    HBox
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    It’s already been stated that they will break into any programme if a breaking news story unveils. You also asume that all the new programmes will be pre-recorded, I’m sure not all of them will be.

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